Hey all. But please stick to the legalese. _________________________________________________-_, Tom says: No Office: Same thing as above. I do not do that. Thats what I learned in both Pre-licensing classes I took (one in 94 and one this past weekend). Just like if you were go to the gym and look at the equipment doesnt mean you worked out. All OWNERS who have franchises get a percentage of what that franchise brings in as part of their agreement to represent the company. My wife and I did have Whole Life Insurance at one point, and we were paying over $300-$400 per month. 1 Primerica Parkway. Anyway You asked me to tell how they do it and I explained. So please get off this kick that we need to cover all the bases. prove mine by posting the newest slide, with numbers to call to verify. You call them panic thinking something is wrong. I hjve seen it scheduled to happen in 7 years. Then you are on the getting side forever. God Bless Everybody, even the ones that dont think like us. Dont put words in my mouth or twist my story. If I worked for PFS and walked away from you whom would you call, PFS and complain? So why not get back to true reason why it was created. But Primerica is better than your plan. This gets around the Do NOT Call list, and the fact that you will be bugged until you leave them or cave. My mother is 81 yrs. 3. It is like the person who buys a car and only gets liability insurance to save money. (This has been proven to be one of the Mortgages that has caused the financial meltdown.) . (Over 1.5 times) Maybe you need the post again. Do some research. You have to sell bad products to clients to make up the difference. Portfolio Level. They must have been trying to follow the trend. I am non-captive. (It is a story) Those that prepare are usually looked at like lucky, by those who have not. You get an override when people below you sell a policy. - It has been since the insurance laws have been inacted by the lobby of the cash value insurance companies. I sell Metlife VA cheaper and ear(earn)substanially more. 1.Life Health and Disability License And not have to go through a maze of people in another country that really do not know how to speak the english language. I am truly an independent, non-captive agent. And now he takes the fame of success but never the blame of failure. Nothing Sold=No one gets paid. Here is the question of the day, and it is something you still have not answer. To give you a better idea of the size and how these college divisions compare, about 187,000 student-athletes compete at the Division 1 level. How many middle American families are going to have to worry about estate preservation? You have fewer fund families than a 401k which is sad, and a common sense annuity; give me a break. In primary prevention, a disorder is actually prevented from developing. Is death the only way to stop income flow to a family? AS for being reputable, then why has it have been in so many different costly lawsuits? It is the middle class family that ahs been cheated by agents like yourself selling the fact that you need life insurance permanently. Its just the market and the industry has evolved. Legal Protection I mean you tote AIG. ANd this is different than any other business? What option is there to give a client with one term product which is Tom: One thing you seem to fail to see or understand is people can go to a source to verify what is said. Its policy design. Privacy Anyone? Better, YES! 6 to 8% to borrow your money. There are people out there that are thrown out of Primerica. You know what? But for everyone else that you help to train, and usually their legs too, you get to keep a leg. by the time your done with your training appointments and have your liscense you will have people on your team to take you, as their trainer, out on appointments and so the cycle goes. Duluth, Georgia 30099-0001. NO they would have never bought either policy if I had not set an appointment with them and spent time trying to help them know what kind of coverage they need. Thankfully, it has gotten a lot of comments pointing out some of the pros and cons of primerica from insiders, those who left, and others who had been recruited. James boy, maybe one of these days you will make your own comments, not repeat what you only hear. It really is a way to take money from the agents. The contract levels depend upon the amount of business the producer does and the size of the agency. The contract rate dictates the percentage earn They do better compliance than most. The RVP has an office. Unless you can find another insurance quoting website this is the only one that you and I have the same access to. Why are most mortgage brokers are closing down, and insurance agents are leaving the business, and Primerica is growing? I can go on and on but then I would be rambling, but it woudl not be a run on sentence. Did you know my Grand kids think your and your posts are pathetic? -. Sales are sales. Who wons their producers and clients. Good luck to you internet savvy gurus and keep bashing PFSit looks good on you. OK I would ask you to run a quote for me but since you are not an agent you are a CLIENT, you cannot compare with me apples for apples against my products. I knwo I rather stay in a hotel that has a high standard than the cheapest one. A freshman with one econ 101 course could do circles around your fabricated knowledge of what you think is this whole financial realm. You are not signing up with them for a fee. Tom give it up..LOL..There wasnt anything negative intended about the Art Williams video I send it to my team to view.. PFS advisor made you rich, etc. 3) I brought 24 PFS Reps with me when I left to found my own firm. That way the Annuity can pay the policy premium and at end of Term the person can get all of their premiums back. Someone that can sell his plan, is one of the above people. Out of 8 appoints, 5 will stick, 3 will buy and 1 will be a recruit. And who would you trust you money to, James the part-time Independent agent, who works on a.c repair, or Mary, who works with Primerica, worth 7 billion dollars, and backed by them? Just like all those companies that are failing and getting into trouble, it is a failure of leadership. And all of our clients are so happy to be with us we transfer so many from other companies and they like the fact that we actually educate them not just sell them a product they know nothing about. Or a mortgage broker not getting his back end money and telling the client he is not making anything on this loan. And who it is good for. No. Or person who sells for whomever pays the highest? I have written a related answer on Quora before at this link (and as mentioned at that article, I warn you again that my exposure to Primerica is n 3. Not many. You call them idiots and they will call you an idiot, youll be even. But then again the only people who say to use Insurance to save money is Insurance Sales People. Maybe all your downlines are supporting their familes with their PFS income. Nobody ever talked about term before Primerica. Im getting my Sr Rep promotion and well on my way to District promotion Well see what happens. Do you have your investment licenses, Series 6, 63, 26? As for being a Christian blog, many atrocities have been done in his name. To them its business. Another thing I notice the PFS FNA lacks is that it tells them a FIN using hypothetical values while I can used guaranteed ones because you have no access to FIAs. Then they can rule the board and get their mis-information out. - I got a call from your Village, they want you to come home Michael. Some of my friends have been interested from the start. To bad that is all you are. Williams was sold once before and stock went through the roof. But then again his real name is not Michael but Thomas. Specially when rating preferred women because they do something called unisex rating. Or how about it is one of the few companies out there that refunds the money if you change your mind? Obviously the tools in a PFS reps belt include insurances (home, auto, life, long-term care), emergency funds, debt consolidation (debt-stacking, GOOD Loans, SMART Loans), mortgages and investments (namely mutual funds and variable annuities). I have been to quite a few multi-level marketing recruiting meetings over the years. If I was Micahels or James Clients, I would not walk but run and pull all my files from them. Your upline may not have any problems with ethical violations, but Primerica wants to keep everything above board. He write paragraphs after paragraphs, sometimes multiple consequtive posts, but never says anything. Should we as consumer purchase from one company or purchase one product? There is a reason why she was untouchable. LOL. 8. Ask any competent adviser. The training the new people get is industry trainings, not just company trainings. AIG: American General They do not need income protection. He talks about driving a BMW when he wishes he had a Yugo while riding on public transportation. When you die you do not get it. I am sorry, Why do you think that it is ashamed of Primerica? Second, like it or not, the opportunity to make more money to bridge the income shortfall that many middle-class families have today is one of the best things that a Primerica agent can offer, products aside. Art Williams proved to you its possibleso I look forward to your own company taking on one of the biggest industries in the world and proving that one man CAN make a differenceone day at a time and a lot of years later. I am sorry which other company has over 100,000 licensed individuals in life insurance? Just understand going in and coming out. Most people are willing to pay more for not the cheapest product. That is definitely not a team driven position. You have a yearly expense of office space, postage, overnight delivery, insurance for office, insurance for E and O, and lawyers if you get sued. G stands for General. I can assist in helping people get mortgages. This is the same thing they said when Metlife bought the Insurance business. I am not sure what company you work for but I know Allstate does nto do that. This ought to be good. So a new person pays the low cost of $99.00 and then has to give up a leg. And that was in the policy, and planned. And they are definitely not the ones that James sees. I am truly an independent, non-captive agent. However, this does NOT include the securities license! Becaused I know you didnt get up one morning and tell your spouse, I had a dream that Im suppose to save the world from a company named Primerica or like you guys like to call it PrimAmerica. Tom is only a client. Its not about the products. Many people that are real entrepreneurs not fake MLM ones, are happy and many people in other fields are just the same. . You,Michael, Jenni any one selling cash value life insurance or ROP (This is a form of cash value, This comes from an outside source. Or have you not seen many hard working families lose their homes the last couple of years because reps have been selling so-called good quotes. Since I teach my guys to sell on value, they make 100,000 a year as an employee. Selling them policies they knew where bad, but laughing all the way to the bank. But then again The IRS says it is. So you do not think that refinancing your debt through your home and having a plan to get out of debt faster is a good idea? Being non-captive means to me, that I am not forced to sell one product, one service, or having one mindset. Where do you think you would place your trust? I gave you a challenge, do you remember it? I was not restricted to only sell or repair one brand. Does that mean you will steal from your client, any chance you can? The bad thing for the agent it lowers their amount of policies. IN my business we sign a non-compete clause. That is something that most people hate. Tom im sure you understand that anyone can post with any name. I have to admit that the above is a very succinct and accurate statement. To me their system is designed for the recruiter. As for your post about guaranteed premiums: Did you read the fine print. Some of you may have a nice independent office but the people I deal with are not visiting your office or any other office and are not showing up on your sales leads. And since you keep saying cheaper, here is another story. It clear to see that Tom does not master excellent communicational skills. There is a side of Primerica though that a lot of people considers to be a multi-level marketing scam. Primericas is a early payout. Sorry diversification is a text book wrong answer. Its not.. What is the value of that leg? We provide the vehicle for you to get to a better financial place by mapping out where you are and how to get to where you want to be based on YOUR specific case. ( Or is it their business since they can get fired. And since you are on this estate preservation plan, whos estate gets the money that is in the policy? Do they just offer their clients Term? Give us facts we can verify. I understand that the part-time opportunity allows me to go into the sales business on a part-time basis without giving up the security of any full-time job. And he can get it with out any fees. Advisers: They help the cleint get to the goal they want. All companies have a CEO, then VPs, the upper mgmt, middle mgmt, and workers. You remind me of many people who blame everyone else for their failures. [CDATA[ google_ad_client = "pub-0751974658121276";/* CPF 250x250 in content serp */google_ad_slot = "2853593088";google_ad_width = 250;google_ad_height = 250; // ]]> The reason they can hire anyone is because they have a computer program that does the advising for them. PFS people have at me. For the right person, it works really well. Please explain that to me. You are definitely playing by the attackers play book. And that cash value will not cost more than term? I guess that fact that yes some are not where they need to be, but either you can leave them by the road side, or take them aboard and then teach them and coach them and mentor them. I am an independent part-time non-captive licensed agent. I am sure many of you could relate who have families and friends who joined. Should they be more cheaper. Its about buying a term policy and people having an issue with not getting anythng back at end of Term. By the way are your policies fully convertible and guaranteed? With my plan set up by Primerica, I have gotten an average of 12% on my money that would have gone to the insurance company, and if I die, my family gets both. think you need to check your stats chum! Quit kissing butt to earn a promotion. This is a contract between you and Primerica Life Insurance Company (Primerica Life). Dont believe me ask your RVP if you move to a different company can you take your clients or team with you .. you will find out real quick read your IBA it says it in your IBA .. your RVP owns your business you do not own your business until you are a Senior Vice President AND have had 5 years of at least 3% growth. Thanks very much for the time and help! Primerica is a life insurance company that offers two types of term life policies for customers between 18 and 70 years old. Isnt that what Jesus did? Plus the money is the clients, so they never have to borrow, they can withdraw. But then again you are out here to destroy peoples dreams. I had one and they suck!, Now, a mature adult would approach Primerica the same way, right? I guess that explains why you have not been able to figure out how you can do it better. Look up shadow account. So is buying car insurance for a car you do not own anymore. ***You have no idea what markets we or anyone else currently target. You remind me of the people that are trying to steal my saels staff at my business. And you ask why Primerica only does 40%? Im not sure if you know it but companies have reduced their rates in the past 5 years. If not you, who? You see, I really tell on myself, because I do not have to be afraid of any lawyers since I am not breaking any contractual agreements. Broken record again, if you concerned about your pocket book more that doing the right thing you are a failure. I have trained more salespeople than Michael and you together. As far as pay it firsts depends on the sales level you are at, as with any job. But there is more than this one. How Much Is A $500,000 Life Insurance Policy? (But you are on a mission) Any one else who tells you differently is lying. The problem with your story is that ROP is usually same or cheaper than your Just something to think about. They say the leader makes the team. (Please note the Sarcasm. -. Giggles Flintstone? Well If he is going to ignore me then I guess he will not respond to my challenge, Like the coward he is. They stopped doing auto insurance since then. Theres no information like free information. I actually signed up as a rep before I did the FNA or anything because I seen an opportunity to learn and do something in which im very interested. 4. WebFor PLIC Insurance policies, send written requests to: Primerica Life. It runs a minimum of $1300 for her and she is a captive agent. Now, I do know you have no knowledge of what it means since you keep saying it is cheaper. its the same way with your trainer taking you out on appointments your trainer has the knowledge. Ideally I would like to be able to help everyone regardless of their situation and at least on face-value it seems like Primerica allows me to do that. If you have any questions you can email me at investinginfamilies[at]yahoo.com. Up to this point you are under someone and they are responsible. I know I dont.. Actually, its better than that they have a totally customizable term-length from 15 to 35 years. As for the facts, they need to come from a source that has no reason to slant the facts. I know my competition. . Primerica, follows the tried and true way. These investors still face the risk of sustaining serious losses on auction-rate securities. tell Jesus and my grandma I said hi!! Four years later would change their name to Primerica Corporation. Primerica would never do that. Ive had a FNA done. What about health insurance again .. try to sell it and you will be fired (by the way does it make sense that you can be fired from your own business?). The freedom to choose my carriers with out a fear of having my contact cancelled. Alternatively, Tom himself has admitted that he does not even use his real name. Now I know you think that training is not needed but if you are going to know how to counter someone statement on price, You need training. Word of mouth advertising is the least expensive way to advertise. That was an honor. Especially my RVP. Im giving you the benefit of the doubt that youre quite resourceful but you may have not come across certain particular concepts and realities in your business savvy. Those that sell cash value in any form, do this. standard plus non smoker Then theres the issues of a court ordered insurance policy. The IRS does not say that a PFS agent is a business owner. The only people that say it is good is the Life Insurance comapanies and the agents that sell it. It covers your licenses, including Life, Health and Disability, Mortgage appointment, Securities, Primerica Prepaid legal, and the ability to get paid on referrals for Auto and Home owners insurance. Tom to answer your questions, do you work for a Contractor in the Business of Ac Repair? Who do they blame the mortgage companies for the loans they sold them. But just like the Gym example whose fault is it? Its a little like PMI insurance on mortgages. State Farm offered a part time opportunity to agents? *****Now let us talk about Whole life. They have a mortgage program that gets you out of debt faster, and if you do not have a mortgage they can show you how to get out of debt faster. Im not looking for clients or agents from the board. Again you prove your lack of knowledge. And if a person can better themselves and their family why are you standing in their way. You might be in for a surprise. Securities is covered now, along with Auto and Home owners referrals pay out. You left 8 years ago. An example of companies that did not do this is WMA/WFG. ONe can only guess. It is a gift with free updates. Here is why I use a person who is not in it for the money. I know a lot of people are very passionate about MLMs one way or another, so if you comment please keep it civil. Yes they are. , BTW, C is even more expensive, proportionally, when paying monthly, than A and B. As fro green people, who is easier to train, someone with limited knowledge, or someone with preconcieved knowledge, or training. And you do not get any legs. If I have a question about any of my products, who do I call, My agent. Taking someone overpaying for insurance and showing them where to get a better value and save money is educating. We get commissions on each piece of business that we close. I rather get my insurance based on 100 people, than off me. I also need to know if it is right for me and my family. But Michael knows he can throw numbers out all he wants but the trick is not to lock himself down, because he has no control over the underwriting, nor the insurance company. You say AIG is a great company to buy term from, correct? (or this is the internetit could be yousmart person pretending to be two by creating internet controversy..OMG!! There is over 100 hierarchy levels at Primerica I rather get both Sales are sales. Ask around. I think it was under $100 a year. 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